Young Justice: Outsiders, Season 3, Episode 20: Quiet Conversations

Victor Stone's character is one that we've explored in many different places over the past couple years of DC comics' other media. Between live-action movies to animated movies, there's a significant push for good ol' Cyborg, and it's sort of the same kind of fatigue people are feeling when they see Uncle Ben or the Waynes get shot up again, y'know? But the distancing that Victor and Silas has with each other is honestly told pretty well, and Victor's very bitter yelling at his poor old man is amazingly delivered by his voice actor Zeno Robinson. And it's hard to fault Silas for wanting to reach out, even if Silas's constant attempts is what is triggering poor Cyborg being taken over by the Father-Box side of his techno-biology.

All the while, on Earth, Victor and Silas have more of an argument, with Silas trying his best to calm his son down and insist that he's there to help, while Silas's mere presence ends up stressing Victor out even more. I did feel like we're probably missing one or two scenes of Victor and Silas arguing, though, because we sort of go from "your presence is stressing me out!" to "I trust you to put me in a medically induced coma".
Eventually, Team Superboy end up convincing Metron to come with them, but turns out that Metron is only interested in observing how a Father Box will consume an organic person and transform Victor completely into a cybernetic creature. And it's a pretty neat "this being is so timeless that mortal lives don't mean jack to him" moment, and we do get a pretty nice sequence of the superheroes attacking a very indignant Metron to get to his chair. Ultimately, Victor ends up being cured when they get him to the chair, and we get to see a mysterious beam of light being absorbed by Metron's chair... which, according to Forager, is the Father Box's soul returning to the Source. Metron ends up leaving, although also with a cryptic answer of "no but yes" at whether Apokolips' Granny Goodness is the same as Earth's Gretchen Goode. Okay?
Also, pretty interestingly is Terra observing everything throughout the episode, and she ends up giving a report to Deathstroke that there's been no major developments. It's actually interesting! With the changes made to this adaptation of Terra's famous Judas Contract storyline, this seems to be a huge subversion that really ends up working out. We've been looking at Terra lurking in the background, watching and waiting, knowing that she's a double-agent all this while. But this version of Terra has been traumatized and now has been shown kindness by the superheroes, so it's actually interesting that this version of Terra isn't just a bitch manipulated by Slade, but an actually conflicted person who seems to really end up taking a liking to the Team.

There's also a subplot about Helga Jace telling Brion to basically calm down and try and understand Halo's situation, but considering the moments in this episode of Helga going off to talk to her mentor, as well as her subtly noting how Brion and Tara could return to Markovia if they keep up her exploits, it's interesting to see just what Helga's main game is.


Ultimately, this was an episode that genuinely felt 'whelming to me. The Cyborg and Team Superboy stuff were decent but ultimately kinda bland, and ditto for the Kaldur'ahm stuff. The Violet storyline felt kinda inconsistently paced, though, and I'm not the biggest fan, while the Harper stuff just made me sort of shrug it off. Definitely kind of a stumbling block as far as Young Justice goes, an episode with multiple smaller storylines, ending up feeling the most 'filler' out of this season's episodes.
Roll Call:
- Heroes: Cyborg, Forager, Geo-Force, Black Lightning, Dreamer, Superboy, Tigress, Miss Martian, Sphere, Halo, Aquaman II, Superman, Aquaman (Orin), Wynnde,
- Villains: Parademons
- Civilians/Others: Terra, Metron, Dr. Helga Jace, Harper Row, Madia Daou, Samad Daou, Dolphin, Eduardo Dorado Sr, dr. Silas Stone, Sha'lain'a, Calvin Durham, Cullen Row
DC Easter Eggs Corner:
- Hooray, Metron and his Mobius Chair make their debut in Young Justice! Metron is a character that is affiliated with the New Gods of the DC universe, often portrayed as a benevolent but ultimately detached observer. Moving from one place to the next with his teleporting chair, Metron is not affiliated with either New Genesis or Apokolips, often observing and documenting events without really intervening.
- Young Justice credits Metron with creating Mother and Father Boxes, but in the comics, Metron only created the Boom Tube technology while the boxes were created by a different New God, Himon.
- The Source, as well as the Source Wall, are recurring major elements of the New Gods' mythology. The Source is basically the metaphysical, Star-Wars-Force esque god-like energy that flows through the gods, while the Source Wall was the 'edge of all known universe', which separates the physical universe from the Source itself. Many gods and former gods have tried to peek behind the Source Wall, only to be trapped and become part of the wall itself, a fate that various characters in the DC universe have subjected to each other multiple times.
- Forager casually mentions that they have teleported into the head of Gog. In the comics, Gog was an anti-hero from the Kingdom Come alternate universe, who grew disillusioned with the superheroes and ended up becoming an antagonist. In the New 52 reboot, Gog is teleported from Earth-22 (the Kingdom Come universe) to Earth-1 and ended up fighting our heroes, and eventually got imprisoned in the Source Wall.
- Calvin Durham in the comics is a former minion of Black Manta who ended up becoming an ally of Aquaman after Black Manta continued to abandon his promises of an utopia, focusing more on vengeance on Aquaman. The character of Kaldur'ahm is very loosely based on the comic-book "Cal" Durham, who ends up being retconned into Young Justice Kaldur'ahm's foster father. Sha'lain'a is original to Young Justice, as far as I can tell.
- Superboy's team met Superman and the Parademons in the Minosyss Ring, which borrows its name from Minosyss, the planet where the Teen Titans storyline The Return of Donna Troy takes place.
- Dreamer makes her first reappearance since the season one episode "Disordered"! She mentions that apparently, Big Bear attacked Metron in the past.

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